Amada Vipros 358 Queen
Turret Sleeving

Amada Vipros 358 Queen at a glance

Tonnage

30 ton

Stations

45

Turret

Thick turret

Auto-Index

4 A/I

Control

Fanuc 04PC

The Vipros line ran 1995–2005 and is out of production. These machines are young enough to be thoroughly capable and old enough to have real turret hours on them — the most common profile we are called to.

Where this machine is in its life

Whatever its build year, the Vipros 358 Queen's upper turret station bores wear the same way: gradually, unevenly, and invisibly until hole quality starts failing inspection.

How a Vipros 358 Queen turret wears

At 30 tons, the Vipros 358 Queen sits in the workhorse band — mixed duty, mixed material, and usually the machine a shop reaches for first. That versatility is also why its turret wears: it runs the widest range of work, and the stations holding the most-used tools take a disproportionate share of the hits.

With 45 stations, a Vipros 358 Queen turret usually shows wear concentrated in the positions running the most common tooling. Sleeving does not have to be all-or-nothing — the worn stations are done and the rest are left as they are.

The tell is always the same: the fault stays with the station rather than following the tool. Move a tool that is producing bad parts to another station — if it runs clean there, the bore is worn, and new tooling will not change that. See holes out of round, burring on punched parts or punches dulling too fast for the full diagnosis.

What sleeving a Vipros 358 Queen involves

Each worn bore is machined to a precise oversize and a hardened USA-made steel sleeve is installed with a precision slip fit and secured with retaining compound, restoring the station to Amada factory tolerance — typically within 0.0002″. Engineers travel to you; the Vipros 358 Queen never ships. 2–3 days of downtime, typically $8,000–$25,000 depending on scope. After the first install your own maintenance staff can replace sleeves in future.

Set against $100,000–$500,000+ for a replacement machine — see sleeve or replace, including where replacing genuinely wins.

4 A/I on this machine

The Vipros 358 Queen carries 4 auto-index stations of its 45. Auto-index stations rotate tooling in 0.01° increments through gears, bearings and a rotary encoder mechanism — all in constant motion, all wearing. Symptoms are angular drift, indexing errors, alarm codes and parts punched off-angle.

TSI rebuilds them completely and calibrates before sign-off, routinely in the same visit as sleeving. Auto-index refurbishment · diagnosing angle errors.

Is the Vipros 358 Queen a thick or thin turret machine?

The Vipros 358 Queen is a thick turret machine. Thick and thin describe the turret, not automatically the tooling — the two are quoted separately, and a machine has to be identified on both counts before sleeves or tooling are ordered.

Tonnage will not tell you either: several 22-ton Amada machines run thick turrets. If you are not certain what your press carries, send us the model and serial number and we will confirm it. See also thick vs thin turret and how Amada model numbers work.

Turret configuration for the Vipros 358 Queen

One turret layout is documented for the Vipros 358 Queen. Amada sold the same model number with different tooling over its production life, so the station count is still worth reading off the machine rather than assuming it. This is the configuration on record:

A–E are Amada tool-station sizes: A ½″, B 1¼″, C 2″, D 3½″, E 4½″. A blank size column means the station and auto-index totals are confirmed but the factory A–E mix is not — we would rather leave it open than guess it.

Confirm before you quote. We verify the turret from the serial number or a photograph before pricing any sleeving, whatever the paperwork says. Send us the serial number and we will confirm what is actually in your Vipros 358 Queen, and how many stations that means. Send us the serial number.

What the number tells you

Amada model numbers describe the machine. The Vipros 358 Queen decodes as a 30-ton class press with a 50 × 80 table — the first digit is tonnage, the other two are table width and length. Its full designation is VIPROS-305080.

How to read an Amada model number — useful when your paperwork and your badge disagree.

How the Vipros 358 Queen compares

Queen variant of the VIPROS-358, built on the 45-station thick turret with 4 auto-index stations (2 × B and 2 × C). That is a different turret from the 58-station King and King II versions of the same model number, which matters when you are quoting a job. — that is what sets this machine apart on the spec sheet.

These machines are easy to mix up, and the difference matters when you are quoting a turret job. Against the other Vipros models we cover:

• Amada Vipros 357 — stations 44/2AI, 45/4AI or 58/2AI · auto-index 2 or 4, per configuration · tonnage 33 ton.
• Amada Vipros 358 King — stations 58 · auto-index 4 A/I · tonnage 30-33 ton.
• Amada Vipros 2510 King — stations 31 · auto-index 3 A/I · tonnage 22 ton.
• Amada Vipros 358 King II — stations 58 · auto-index 4 A/I · tonnage 33 ton.
• Amada Vipros 345 — stations 44/2AI, 45/4AI or 58/2AI · auto-index 2 or 4, per configuration · tonnage 30-33 ton.
• Amada Vipros 255 — stations 31 · auto-index 3 A/I · tonnage 20 ton.
• Amada Vipros 357 Queen — stations 58 · auto-index 2 A/I · tonnage 33 ton.
• Amada Vipros 367 Queen — stations 58 · auto-index 2 A/I · tonnage 33 ton.
• Amada Vipros 368 King — stations 58 · auto-index 4 A/I · tonnage 30-33 ton.
• Amada Vipros 368 King II — stations 58 · auto-index 4 A/I · tonnage 33 ton.
• Amada Vipros 368 Queen — stations 45 · auto-index 4 A/I (known configuration) · tonnage 30 ton.
• Amada Vipros III Z3510NT — stations 45 · auto-index 4 A/I · tonnage 33 ton.
• Amada Vipros Z3510 Queen — stations 58 · auto-index 4 A/I · tonnage 33 ton.
• Amada Vipros 568 — stations 58 or 62 · auto-index 2 A/I on the 62-station turret; 4 A/I on the 58 · tonnage 55 ton.
• Amada Vipros 558 — stations 58 or 62 · auto-index 2 A/I on the 62-station turret; 4 A/I on the 58 · tonnage 55 ton.

Sleeving is the same process across all of them. What changes is scope, and scope follows station count and how hard the machine has been run.

Beyond the turret

The Vipros 358 Queen runs the Fanuc 04PC control — current-generation, and not usually a candidate for retrofit. Where a machine of this age needs more than turret work, it is normally wear items: X/Y ball screws, LM guide rails, clutch and brake, work holder clamps, guide keys, springs and collars. All covered under complete overhaul, on-site, in the same visit.

Amada Vipros 358 Queen documentation

Free. The first few downloads need nothing; after that we ask which machine you are working on. Larger parts lists are scanned documents — worth being on Wi-Fi.

Full libraries: manuals and parts lists.